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Old 07-16-2013, 12:28 PM   #1
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Newly discovered tick-borne disease can infect in 15 minutes!

It's been found in several down state counties, including Ulster, Orange, Putnam, Sullivan, Rockland and Westchester!

And it has a 10-15% fatality rate!

http://www.1450wkip.com/cc-common/ma...ticle=11482758
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:37 PM   #2
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It's been found in several down state counties, including Ulster, Orange, Putnam, Sullivan, Rockland and Westchester!

And it has a 10-15% fatality rate!

http://www.1450wkip.com/cc-common/ma...ticle=11482758
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Old 07-16-2013, 01:05 PM   #3
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Newly discovered tick-borne disease can infect in 15 minutes!

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Frick on a stick! Not cool. DEET is your friend.
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:25 PM   #4
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I often wonder when we will get serious about understanding and working to restore / maintain the balance of nature. How many lives have been ruined because of Lyme and other tick borne illnesses that wouldn't have been had we developed the New York area sensibly and left room for the natural predators of deer and mice? How much has the emerald ash borer and other invasive species cost us, just in sheer dollar amounts? Probably millions of dollars of timber, plus costs we can't know yet.
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:46 PM   #5
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I often wonder when we will get serious about understanding and working to restore / maintain the balance of nature. How many lives have been ruined because of Lyme and other tick borne illnesses that wouldn't have been had we developed the New York area sensibly and left room for the natural predators of deer and mice? How much has the emerald ash borer and other invasive species cost us, just in sheer dollar amounts? Probably millions of dollars of timber, plus costs we can't know yet.
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:47 PM   #6
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I often wonder when we will get serious about understanding and working to restore / maintain the balance of nature. How many lives have been ruined because of Lyme and other tick borne illnesses that wouldn't have been had we developed the New York area sensibly and left room for the natural predators of deer and mice?
Why wouldn't predators be afflicted with ticks just as much as deer and mice?
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:00 PM   #7
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Why wouldn't predators be afflicted with ticks just as much as deer and mice?
I can't fully answer your question, but I know that people in NY and southern Vt still kill rattlesnakes, despite them being protected. Rattlesnakes eat mice, chipmunks, etc., thus decreases the carriers for Lyme. And it doesn't stop at rattlesnakes; people just love to kill snakes.

I'm guessing that reptiles won't get these diseases being so different from mammels, but I'm not sure about that.
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If anyone has a bit of med training, maybe you can answer: encephalitis is a virus and meningitis is a bacterial disease?
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:10 PM   #9
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If anyone has a bit of med training, maybe you can answer: encephalitis is a virus and meningitis is a bacterial disease?
I believe both can be caused by either bacteria or virus. But I'm not a doctor. Neil?
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Why wouldn't predators be afflicted with ticks just as much as deer and mice?
Many mammal predators, I would assume, can get Lyme and could possibly spread infections through ticks. However, the deer tick needs to live on deer specifically at a certain point of its life cycle. If we're talking about foxes and weasel-types that eat mice, there are much fewer of them than there are mice, i.e. fewer vectors for the diseases to follow. Of course, I'm not an ecologist. I just played one on TV.
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I recently read somewhere (Conservationist?) about how coyotes drive foxes out of an area and that foxes were/are more efficient predators of mice than coyotes are. Before we had todays Lyme, we had no coyotes.
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Thanks for sharing this.

Here is another article concerning it:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5035a4.htm

In addition, borrelia miyamotoi has appeared to be an additional concern.

http://now.tufts.edu/articles/new-ti...-disease-found

One additional note, if you do notice a tick on your body. You may want to ask your health care provider about the most recent CDC guidelines concerning preventative/preemptive treatment. (Apparently there has been some controversy concerning the CDC guidelines.)
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If anyone has a bit of med training, maybe you can answer: encephalitis is a virus and meningitis is a bacterial disease?
meningitis is an inflammation of the meninges (sp?), the membrane(s) surrounding/protecting the brain/spinal cord. encephalitis is inflammation of the brain itself. at least, i think that's right...?
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:03 AM   #14
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This or a related tick born virus has been more common in Europe for a long time and at least for those strains, there is a vaccine that appears to be affective:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tick-bo...alitis_vaccine

It may be too rare in this country for anyone to invest money in a vaccine ???

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5035a4.htm
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:11 AM   #15
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There was a Lyme Disease vaccine, but it seems to have disappeared. Did it actually give people Lyme Disease?
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:15 AM   #16
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I may have had Babesiosis just over a year ago. I had a couple rough days of malaria like symptoms a week or two after a tick bite (the tick had been promptly removed). Tests for tick born illnesses were all negative, but that doesn't mean the lab knew how to test for this bugger.

http://www.health.ny.gov/diseases/co...fact_sheet.htm

One more thing to be afraid of :(
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